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RC 200: Do You Remember the First Time? Part 2 with Ian Fondue

So what’s do you think was the first mashup? It’s a simple question with a not so simple answer, as with the television or photography or even the humble light bulb it’s an evolution (control committee?) starting with the earliest turntablism of Shaeffer and radiotronics of Cage, and ending with Christina getting Stroked – but the bit in the middle is the most interesting part, and closest to what mashups are today. Talking of parts this is the long awaited sequel to Part One back in August 2009!

For the 200th Radio Clash I invited Ian Fondue of mashup pioneers Fondue Meltdown back to discuss the early mashups from the 1970’s to the 2000s for our journey we decided that mashups have to be 2 or more sources, and preferably not (re)created by the artists, actual recorded sources – which leads us back to Bambaata and Grandmaster Flash (not played in the program but here’s Adventures on the Wheels of Steel, one of the tracks that kicked it all off…)

The restrictions may seem arbitrary but a) you have to start somewhere and b) re-recording is kind of cheating and gets into Stars on 45 territory and c) nowadays you forget the conceptual and naughty pop thrill of hearing only two or more tracks mixed together as complete songs (or later albums) – and the leaps in technology that afforded that – hard to do on tape like Steinski or record as Coldcut attest on the show, difficult to do on an AKAI sampler, easy to do with software such as Acid – the rise of the mashup was as much a technological evolution as a musical one – as was the internet and p2p to form a scene and find the source material.

Ian and I discuss that and more and even sneeze our headphones off, which is not something you hear everyday…it’s a long one due to the massive amount of music and long period we were covering (we dumped quite a few songs we really wanted to play as it was – such as Shut Up and Dance and PWEI!) but very worth it, a musical mashup history trip without the annoying bus ride nor crappy film. Bonus! Also the graphic above has all the artists in it in Where’s Mashy? style – can you spot them all (only one did I have to take artistic license for).

The First Time Ever I Saw Your Mash (137Mb, 141mins)

  • People Like Us / Negativland – What’s Music?
  • Freelance Hellraiser – A Stroke Of Genie-us
  • Knack and Beatles  – My Sharona – Love Me Do
  • bangers&mash – Billie Dan (originally done by Clubhouse)
  • Greg Wilson – Freak-A-Zoids mix
  • Steinski – The Payoff Mix (aka Lesson 1)
  • Age Of Chance – Kiss (Kiss Powermix)
  • Norman Cook aka Urban All Stars –  It Began In Africa
  • The Story of Pop Sampling excerpt with Coldcut talking about Paid in Full
  • Coldcut – Beats and Pieces (mobass mix)
  • The Justified Ancients Of Mu Mu – Whitney Joins The JAMs
  • Kiss AMC –  A Bit Of…
  • The Evolution Control Committee –  By The Time I Get To Arizona (Whipped Cream Mix)
  • The Source ft. Candi Staton – You Got The Love (Erens Bootleg Mix)
  • Bassheads – Is There Anybody Out There? [Extended]
  • Raven Maize – The Real Life
  • The Prodigy  – Radio Babylon / Rockit / 900 Number / Spy Break / It’s The New Style (from Dirtchamber Sessions)
  • DJ Shadow – Midnight In A Perfect World
  • Philly da Kid – this charming booty

BTW One of the ones we missed but I knew about back in the mists of time (it started my Nu Disco mix for instance) was Pink Project’s Pink Floyd vs Alan Parson’s Project proto mash from 1982 with the spookiest video ever – if Lady Gaga is really illuminati I dread to think what these guys are flagging:

Other songs that just didn’t make it:

Comments

2 responses to “RC 200: Do You Remember the First Time? Part 2 with Ian Fondue”

  1. Tizwarz avatar
    Tizwarz

    Take my hat off,that was brill. great work from you and Ian.

    The new school really shouid take a listen to this and check where the foundations of mashups started.

    Plenty to learn from this, well done. 10/10

    1. Tim avatar

      thanks! high praise indeed 🙂

      And yes the idea was to create a History of Mashups show for the new generation(s) to learn from…I hope they do and don’t think ‘what are those old codgers one about?’

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